kohenari
kohenari:

Literally minutes after the Fox Nation website announced that President Obama’s reelection led directly to massive lay-offs “across America,” Republican citizens who bafflingly continue to believe what Fox News tells them took to Facebook to discuss the mythical lay-offs and to argue that companies should fire Democrats first.
The comment thread actually got far more absurd after I took this screenshot. Here are some choice nuggets:

Choosing to buy from a “Red” company rather than a “Blue” one, all else being equal, or even maybe a little unequal, is something else altogether. I don’t propose we unilaterally disarm ourselves.
But if it’s really happening, it’s worth educating America with the reality of it. Majority voted for this, yet here they thought utopia was on its way. Leftism in power brings out the worst in human nature, neither side is exempt from it.
Is someone saying they’re laying off Dem employees instead of Rep employees? Wow. Talk about the un-anticipated and unintended consequences (by those who elected Obama) of destroying freedom in a single election. Trickle-down paybacks. Which turns into more paybacks. As intended and orchestrated by the left, class warfare on the ground begins. What a devastating time for our nation. And it’s only been 3 days.
Lord knows, the Left rigs the hiring and publishing game in academia, media.
Well actually, I’ve heard that anyone in Hollywood who votes conservative, is really attacked

Here’s how the thread came to a grinding halt:

And … no further comments after that.
At what point do we imagine that a majority of Republicans will start to realize that Fox News is actively lying to them?

kohenari:

Literally minutes after the Fox Nation website announced that President Obama’s reelection led directly to massive lay-offs “across America,” Republican citizens who bafflingly continue to believe what Fox News tells them took to Facebook to discuss the mythical lay-offs and to argue that companies should fire Democrats first.

The comment thread actually got far more absurd after I took this screenshot. Here are some choice nuggets:

  • Choosing to buy from a “Red” company rather than a “Blue” one, all else being equal, or even maybe a little unequal, is something else altogether. I don’t propose we unilaterally disarm ourselves.
  • But if it’s really happening, it’s worth educating America with the reality of it. Majority voted for this, yet here they thought utopia was on its way. Leftism in power brings out the worst in human nature, neither side is exempt from it.
  • Is someone saying they’re laying off Dem employees instead of Rep employees? Wow. Talk about the un-anticipated and unintended consequences (by those who elected Obama) of destroying freedom in a single election. Trickle-down paybacks. Which turns into more paybacks. As intended and orchestrated by the left, class warfare on the ground begins. What a devastating time for our nation. And it’s only been 3 days.
  • Lord knows, the Left rigs the hiring and publishing game in academia, media.
  • Well actually, I’ve heard that anyone in Hollywood who votes conservative, is really attacked

Here’s how the thread came to a grinding halt:

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And … no further comments after that.

At what point do we imagine that a majority of Republicans will start to realize that Fox News is actively lying to them?

timelightbox
timelightbox:

Nov. 7, 2012. President Obama celebrates with first lady Michelle Obama and their daughters Malia and Sasha at their election night victory rally in Chicago. (photo: Kevin Lamarque—Reuters)
From President Obama’s reelection and Superstorm Sandy’s aftermath to a deadly earthquake in Guatemala and a train cemetery in Bolivia, TIME presents the best photographs of the week.
See more photos here.

timelightbox:

Nov. 7, 2012. President Obama celebrates with first lady Michelle Obama and their daughters Malia and Sasha at their election night victory rally in Chicago. (photo: Kevin Lamarque—Reuters)

From President Obama’s reelection and Superstorm Sandy’s aftermath to a deadly earthquake in Guatemala and a train cemetery in Bolivia, TIME presents the best photographs of the week.

See more photos here.

kohenari

Fervent Hope and Bitter Disappointment

kohenari:

Like these two commenters on my most recent blog post, I think fervent hope and bitter disappointment are both entirely appropriate ways to feel in the run-up to and in the aftermath of an election:

thatgoodlifetho replied to your link: Romney “shellshocked” by loss

To have so much invested in the world’s greatest contest; I think if it were me and even if Nate Silver had concluded I would lose, I too would be hoping against hope on election night, which would in turn lead to this kind of colossal letdown.

fossoaposto replied to your linkRomney “shellshocked” by loss

Doris Keans Goodwin talked on Colbert Report about how this dissapointment after losing is pretty typical.

But that’s not quite what we’re talking about in this case. In this case, Romney and his team seemed quite certain that they would win.

Here’s a telling little morsel taken from an interview that Robert Gibbs did with Fox News on Tuesday that sheds some light both on the way that the right-wing media portrayed the run-up to the election — namely that Mittmentum would overwhelm Obama — and the way in which the most recent GOP contender went into the final day with a firm grasp of the way the campaign had played out:

Brian Kilmeade said that he had spoken with Sen. John McCain who confided that he knew on election day in 2008 that he was going to lose. Kilmeade asked Gibbs what he thought it meant that today’s election is truly a tossup and few are certain of the outcome. “Is the fact that it’s even this close disappointing to you and others,” Kilmeade asked.

“No,” Gibbs replied. “I think people forget that, four years ago, even though you said John McCain knew he was going to lose, Barack Obama got 53 percent of the vote. That means he didn’t get 47 percent of the vote that day. That’s a pretty closely divided election.”

He concluded saying that he felt good about Obama’s chances tonight and said that every battleground state could be won by the president.

David Freedlander did a piece for the Daily Beast the other day that grabbed some quotes on losing big elections from famous losers. They’re incredibly helpful in sorting out the difference between the hope that one might still win somehow and the certainty that one will win:

Here’s Walter Mondale:

Unlike maybe a lot of people it became pretty apparent pretty early that it was going to be very very hard. Reagan was sort of celestial I would say at that point. We had some momentum where we would hope a little bit. We had a very strong convention. We came out of the convention maybe even, but then it slipped substantially. And then the other point was when the first debate ended, it looked like we were getting a good bounce out of that debate but it disappeared in the second debate. And then the last oh, couple of weeks before the election I was just campaigning hard to do as well as I could. I wasn’t preparing my inaugural address. And I think most of us knew that. I didn’t want a collapse that would hurt Democrats who were running for other offices. So I would say there was a not a lot of dreaming going on there in those days. It wasn’t like now when you are fighting over one-tenth of one percent. We didn’t have any of that.

Here’s Bob Dole:

In our case we knew we were in trouble, but you still hope that lightning might strike, that something happens and you can pull it off. If you don’t keep a stiff upper lip, you will start losing all of your good supporters. If you don’t remain optimistic, what are the odds that people around you will?

We did a 96-hour all nighter—I see Obama did a 48-hour all nighter, well, we did 96 hours in ’96, where we could rev up the troops in places we visited. And also, I had in the back of my mind that I may lose but I didn’t want to take a bunch of senators, House members with me. But I wasn’t worried about keeping up appearances.

Here’s Michael Dukakis:

You never stopped even though I thought I blew the election by not responding to the Bush attack campaign. It turned out to be the biggest mistake I ever made. You knew going in that it was going to be you or the other guy. I knew I wasn’t ahead but thought I had a shot, and in fact we were closing fairly rapidly until the Boston Herald—no friend of mine—ran an edition the Thursday before the election, and the headline was “What a Mess.” By that time the recession was having an impact on the state, and that headline was about me. And Bush held it up at a press conference and the closing of the gap stopped. It didn’t mean we didn’t keep working.

If you go back and look at what Mondale, Dukakis, Dole, and McCain all say, it’s very clear these politicians knew they would lose but continued to hope otherwise. If you go back and look at what happened with Romney, it’s very clear he was convinced he would win. Indeed, the Fox News interview with Gibbs is telling once again because — if you look carefully at the wording — the interviewers are all suggesting that it’s Obama who should feel like John McCain felt on the last day of the 2008 campaign, not Romney.

Is this just a case of excessive optimism, of the mentality that determination and a gut feeling matter more than polling data? Or is this really about the way in which a fairly large segment of the American Right engages in a sort of disbelief whenever confronted by unpleasant truths?

More and more, I’m inclined to think it’s the latter.

kohenari

kohenari:

So … this article confirms what I most feared, namely that I have been living on a different planet from one of the people running for the highest political office in my country:

Romney was stoic as he talked the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan’s wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.

“There’s nothing worse than when you think you’re going to win, and you don’t,” said another adviser. “It was like a sucker punch.”

Their emotion was visible on their faces when they walked on stage after Romney finished his remarks, which Romney had hastily composed, knowing he had to say something.

Both wives looked stricken, and Ryan himself seemed grim. They all were thrust on that stage without understanding what had just happened.

“He was shellshocked,” one adviser said of Romney.

In all seriousness, I’d be very interested to hear from people who might have information about the McCain, Dole, or Dukakis campaigns and whether they went into the final twenty-four hours with such a firm grip on the notion that they were going to become the next president when, in fact, they were not even close.

HT: Adam Weinstein.

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“The numbers in Florida show this was winnable,” Brett Doster said in a statement obtained by the Miami Herald. “We thought based on our polling and range of organization that we had done what we needed to win. Obviously, we didn’t, and for that I, and every other operative in Florida has a sick feeling that we left something on the table. I can assure you this won’t happen again.”

julyshewillfly

But as concerned as the White House was during the last 30 days of the campaign, its polls never showed Mr. Obama slipping behind Mr. Romney, aides said. The president was helped in no small part by the tremendous amount of money the campaign built up, which had permitted him to pound his Republican rival before he had ever had a chance to fully introduce himself to the nation.

That was just one of several ways that Mr. Obama’s campaign operations, some unnoticed by Mr. Romney’s aides in Boston, helped save the president’s candidacy. In Chicago, the campaign recruited a team of behavioral scientists to build an extraordinarily sophisticated database packed with names of millions of undecided voters and potential supporters. The ever-expanding list let the campaign find and register new voters who fit the demographic pattern of Obama backers and methodically track their views through thousands of telephone calls every night.

That allowed the Obama campaign not only to alter the very nature of the electorate, making it younger and less white, but also to create a portrait of shifting voter allegiances. The power of this operation stunned Mr. Romney’s aides on election night, as they saw voters they never even knew existed turn out in places like Osceola County, Fla. “It’s one thing to say you are going to do it; it’s another thing to actually get out there and do it,” said Brian Jones, a senior adviser.

thedailyfeed

thedailyfeed:

Latinos, blacks, young adults and women: They’re the ones who handed President Obama a second term. Now, he and his fellow Democrats in Congress have to decide just how earnestly they’ll fight for what their key constituencies want.

So it was yesterday — just hours after the Election Night celebration had ceased here in Obama’s hometown — that Illinois Rep. Luis Gutierrez, the author of a comprehensive immigration reform bill in the House, had a message for his party and his president: Get cracking.

“Democrats better not think that the community that came out so forcefully for the president and his re-election is simply going to say, ‘OK, do whatever it is you wish,’ ” Gutierrez told The Daily, after a news conference with a local pro-immigration group. “They better act on this issue, and they better act on it quickly, and in a forceful way.”

kohenari

kohenari:

Dean Chambers, the man who garnered praise from the right and notoriety on the left for his “Unskewed Polling” site, admitted today that his method was flawed. 

“Nate Silver was right, and I was wrong,” Chambers said in a phone interview.

No word, though, on whether Chambers now believes Silver to be “a real man.”